The new Amazon Fire TV 3 includes an Alexa Voice Remote that looks and functions exactly like the remote that’s included with the 2nd generation Fire TV and the Fire TV Stick, but it’s actually a completely new remote on the inside. The new remote is actually Amazon’s fourth voice remote designed for the Fire TV and this latest version forgoes using WiFi-direct connectivity in favor of a return to Bluetooth.
Image: 1st generation Fire TV Stick w/ Bluetooth Non-Voice Remote (left), 1st generation Fire TV w/ Blutooth Voice Remote
Before we talk about where things are now, let’s talk about where we’ve been. The very first Fire TV included a Bluetooth voice remote. A few months later, Amazon introduced the Fire TV Stick and included a smaller non-voice Bluetooth remote. A year after that, Amazon released the 2nd generation Fire TV with an all-new voice remote that used WiFi-direct as its connection method and was slightly longer than the first voice remote. The switch to WiFi-direct was probably done because the new Fire TV Game Controller had an audio jack that needed to use WiFi-direct to avoid Bluetooth’s notorious audio delay. Amazon probably figured they might as well keep things consistent and use WiFi-direct for the remote control as well.
Image: Premium Wifi-direct Voice Remote (left), Cheaper WiFi-direct Voice Remote (right)
There were actually two versions of the new WiFi-direct voice remote. They had the exact same circuitry but had different housings and buttons. The more premium of the two remotes had a soft touch plastic body and hard shiny buttons, like the first voice remote, while the cheaper feeling remote had a hard plastic body and rubber buttons. The premium remote initially shipped with the Fire TV 2 while the cheaper remote was included in a new Fire TV Stick voice bundle. Eventually, Amazon began including the cheaper of the two remotes with both Fire TV devices.
Image: 2nd generation Fire TV Stick with WiFi-direct voice remote
A year after the Fire TV 2 was released, Amazon updated their Fire TV Stick but continued to use the same WiFi-direct remote. That remote is still being included with the 2nd generation Fire TV Stick, but it will likely be replaced with the new Bluetooth remote that is included with the Fire TV 3 at some point.
Amazon is not advertising the Fire TV 3’s remote as a new remote, and for good reason. The new and old remote are, for all intents and purposes, identical in form and function, so there’s really no reason to confuse people by saying the remote is new but the same. The two remotes very likely use the exact same housing and buttons, since the new Fire TV 3 remote is still compatible with accessories like the Sideclick and Piggyback universal remote attachments. The best way to tell the two remotes apart is to open the battery compartment and check the model number. The new Bluetooth remote is model PE59CV, while the old WiFi-direct remote is model DR49WK.
Both the new Bluetooth remote and the old WiFi-direct remote work with all Fire TV and Fire TV Stick models, new and old. They are not, however, compatible with the Fire TV Edition television, which uses it’s own unique remote that combines both Bluetooth and IR signals. If you purchase a Fire TV Voice Remote from Amazon, you will likely receive the new Bluetooth remote that is included with the Fire TV 3.
It’s difficult to say which of the two remotes is “better” because it’s highly dependent on the environment in which they’re used. Most people likely wouldn’t benefit from one remote over the other. The WiFi-direct remote theoretically has a farther range and longer battery life than the Bluetooth remote, but range and battery life are reduced with signal interference, which the WiFi-direct remotes is more susceptible to, due to so many devices using the same 2.4Ghz band. Ultimately, whichever remote you have, if you find it constantly disconnecting or eating through batteries, you may benefit from switching to the other type of remote. For most people, it will make little to no difference which of the two remotes you use.
I noticed the FTV2 refurbs are back in stock. IF anyone else dislikes their FTV3, they may want to pick one up
Thanks, I bought another one. Don’t have high hopes a true 3rd generation Fire TV Box is anywhere close to release.
i got the ftv3 and the volume is super low. I hope there would be a way to fix this bug
I’ll look into it.
Edit: kinseki provided what I wanted.
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Thanks for the dump. (I removed it from your post.)
Unfortunately, that didn’t reveal the issue. I thought it might be as simple as the system volume being turned down for some reason, but that wasn’t the case.
I have the same issue with the sound. Would love to know if there is a fix.
I also have an issue with the sound compared to my old fire TV its much lower
I noticed that the ftv3 remote is made in Luxembourg and not in China like the other ones. If you remove the cover, you will see CE, and not CE0984. That’s how you would distinguish the difference between the two.
Luxemburg has virtually no industry, so I doubt that. Amazon Europe’s HQ is in Luxemburg, I would assume that it somehow goes through there and is then declared as Made in Luxemburg.